The book was published in multiple languages including English, consists of 184 pages and is available in Paperback format. Even with a "they can counter his magnetism" handwave, he's still one of the most powerful and dangerous mutants on Earth, possibly the most powerful that Claremont & Byrne would have been aware of in 1981. Obviously sometimes they beat a villain and the villain later comes back, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a clear win at the time. Note that Kate, in Kitty's body, tells the X-Men in 141 that on Halloween 1980 the Brotherhoid kills Senator Kelly *and also* Xavier and Moira MacTaggart. In other words, the X-Men's mission remains vital and ongoing. Posted by: Cyclops became the de-facto leader after issue #150. Perhaps you would like to finally learn how to ride a hoverboard? As they move through the tunnels the Sentinels rip through the ceiling above to get them. in X-Men: Days of Future Present (Marvel, 1991 series) (May 1991) in X-Men: Days of Future Past … Come on, major drag on the ratings. You still have the Beyonder, Galactus, the Molecule Man, etc. July 31, 2016 3:00 AM. July 18, 2018 9:10 PM. Jonathan, son of Kevin | Even in their most overpowered presentation (like the extremely powerful Sentinels in the DoFP film) how are they surviving a concerted effort from what would surely be ubiquitous resistance superpowered folk? (Though the story does have Kitty's time travel fogging up her predictions so perhaps you could explain it that way. The guy can build a time machine and Doombots, but he can't add more hours to the day, and he's left adrift without Reed as a focus for his energies. November 3, 2016 7:07 PM. I think there’s plenty of other minor wins, just they are overshadowed by the more famous stories that tend to have some tragic element to them. Still, it'd been a long developing plot angle, since Franklin's birth in FF Annual #6 (1968), that Sue's and Reed's son was almost sure to develop powerful and strange cosmic-ray stimulated powers, which would probably be even more powerful than those of his parents, because Annihilus' cosmic control rod had been used to control the cosmic radiation in Susan's blood at the time of his birth. Jonathon | Just then, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants smashes through the wall and before they can attack Kelly and the others, the X-Men change into their costumes and step in their way to stop them. July 16, 2018 12:34 AM. April 11, 2015 6:54 AM. I think it's fair to say that Claremont intended for it to be the same timeline, though he may have made some continuity errors. Alternative universes always seem weaker than the mian universe. ChrisW | If not for Destiny's prediction, Rogue & Mystique wouldn't have got so obsessed with Ms Marvel & it doesn't seem likely anything would have happened. They've already had Shaw & Kelly discussing Sentinels, so when Byrne is drawing Shaw & Kelly meeting up with an ominous Gyrich at the end of an issue where Kelly has survived an assassination attempt, I think it's clear that they would be discussing Sentinels again and it stops being an "absolute, unequivocal" win. I have a perfectly good scan of Wolverine laughing right here. My version of "Secret Wars" wouldn't even need to be "Days of Futures Past." Michael | Sadly, the MU version of Marty McFly would have returned to 1985 and found his Dad still a wimp. Posted by: Later at the United States Senate, the hearing over mutants is in full order and Senator Kelly is questioning Moira MacTaggert when the X-Men arrive in their civilian guises. Mark Black | The RulesQ&AsQuality RatingAcknowledgementsRecent UpdatesWhat's Missing?General CommentsForum, Issue(s): Uncanny X-Men #141, Uncanny X-Men #142Cover Date: Jan-Feb 81Title: "Days of future past" / "Mind out of time! Posted by: Good story though. Excalibur 66-67 makes it clear she's the same Rachel in this story and while she's not time traveling yet, she's responsible for the mind switch that drives the plot in the present. There were two timelines: the first was in 1973 and the second was 2023. Originally published in Uncanny X-Men #s 141-142 back in 1980, this one has it all: Dystopian future, time travel, high stakes and tragedy. "Credits: Though obviously with Claremont, there are rolling plots and subplots where it’s kind of hard to say where an “ending” is. I know the distinction if of little significance as far as this issue goes, because as far as the writers were concerned this was a less powerful Hulk, and thus not as unbelievable to them as it was to me for the Sentinels to take him out. By contrast, the X-Men have to fight to save a man that would oppress them, and when it's all over it's not even clear if they've actually made things better. Posted by: Not here. This story also has Shaw having provided advanced weaponry to the army such as the concussion cannon used here. Posted by: I can see how they would have an advantage over every other superhuman in the world on that basis and could last a decent amount of time in a fight. Aboard one of Warren Worthington's aircraft, they fly toward Washington DC. 5 - While it's clear in the Dark Phoenix Saga that Kitty thinks Peter is cute, their romance is clearly given a long-term approval here with their marriage, before we see anything real between them in the present. Good catch on Nimrod vs Juggernaut (I've never been convinced that those sonics should work on Juggernaut, but never mind). Reprints. One assumes they did as everyone seems to do and simply expelled him into space or something, because the things he has survived I don't think any sentinel is even making a dent, surely? Posted by: September 9, 2016 10:29 PM. Well shit, why didn't you just say that in the first place? Always noticed but never really registered. Anyhow I've gone way off-topic there lol None of these questions mar the brilliance of this story, easily top 10 in my favourite comics, frankly. So both times Destiny's powers of precognition basically help cause a bad future. 3 - There is a lot of talk about the gradual redemption of Magneto beginning in #150, but in a sense, it really starts here with his partnership with the X-Men (and his willingness to sacrifice himself). The other X-Men would simply be mutants and could be treated as such, but Magneto? July 31, 2016 10:11 AM. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. I like that idea a lot, that ruling the world was always of less importance to him than proving to be Reed's superior. ChrisW | The Gyrich panels are not present in the reprint. She explains how her friends in the future had sent her mind back to her younger body, as she would have been the only one who hadn't been prepared with psychic defenses by Professor X at that point. Posted by: She should worry about that. role in comics has varied from supervillain to antihero to superhero, having served as an occasional ally and even a member of the X-Men at times. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading Days of Future Past - Part 1: Past Tense. Posted by: But then, the Shaw-model Sentinels, not to mention to DoFP Sentinels more generally, never do anywhere nearly as well any other time they turn up, and their menace is greatly diluted by the introduction of the aforementioned Nimrod and by cyborgs like Ahab. I always found Wolverine's attitude toward leadership odd. Posted by: Professor Xavier, Wolverine, Magneto, Storm, Kitty Pryde, and her friends meet at a monastery in China and Xavier explains that the invincible Sentinels were created using the DNA of Mystique that was captured in 1973 when she tried to assassinate their creator Dr. Bolivar Trask. Unless the Sentinels just nuked Latveria without any warning whatsoever, I have to think Doom would be prepared for them. On that note, have the X-Men ever had a clear win under Claremont's tenure? I think it would depend where and with what kind of ammo you shoot him, in my own head anyhow I'm thinking you have to kill him outright and immediately, else the transformation is triggered and the wound is healed. Future X-Men (First appearance) 2.1. I don't know how it fits into continuity, but as far as I'm concerned, if you put a bullet through Bruce Banner's brain, the Hulk dies too. ChrisW | I think it's because he's a Scorpio... Posted by: June 21, 2017 7:20 AM. Garuda | Posted by: Proteus yes, and built up Moira as a character (which she didn't need.) No, i added the scan. Posted by: Posted by: If nothing else, you're right, there's never a sense that any of these characters were defeated. On the other hand, when the actual Omega Sentinels are apparently brought back by the Beyonder in Uncanny X-Men 202, the team manage to destroy a few of them without Rachel's help and without anyone being disintegrated with a single Sentinel blast. Posted by: Sabretooth in #213? July 31, 2016 2:24 AM. It's not clear what Claremont's original idea for the Mystique plot in Ms.Marvel was. Brian C. Saunders | Posted by: August 27, 2013 7:33 AM. If they had gone back prior to #141, that would have made sense, but we see them both arrive after that. July 31, 2016 9:30 PM. July 18, 2018 8:27 AM. Despite being rescued by the X-Men, Senator Kelly is still convinced by Sebastian Shaw to go forward with a meeting with the US president to enact Project Wideawake, a clandestine government-run Sentinel program. Omar Karindu | So like Magnum to the back of Banner's head = dead, pistol shot perhaps not necessarily, if you follow. Posted by: In addition to what has already been mentioned, Uncanny X-Men 119 seems like a pretty clear win over Moses Magnum (maybe not worth bragging about), 128 the win over Proteus seems pretty clear cut with Proteus staying "dead" for a decade or more, 216 felt like a decisive victory for Storm and Wolverine over the old warriors/soldiers - unfortunately they ended up joining Freedom Force, and 240-241 seemed like a rout of the Marauders (of course inferno comes up and then kind of obscures that win). Howsabout the Doom pictured as being "crossed out" was just a Doombot? Also, note that the Hulk didn't have a healing factor at the time this story was written. Meanwhile, back in the present, at the Pentagon, Raven Darkhölme enters her private office and reverts back to her natural form -- that of Mystique, the mutant terrorist. 2. 7 - Rachel, of course, isn't mentioned as a Summers here. Their first blast kills Franklin, incinerating his body. As SPECTACULAR as this site is, this particular review doesn't do Days of Future Past justice. The Brotherhood of "Evil" Mutants are well used here as a group that wants to fight humans, not necessarily to take over the world, but to prevent humans from oppressing mutantkind. It's there somewhere.http://www.artofjohnbyrne.com/gallery/commissions/commissions-large/xmen-0726.jpg.php, Posted by: I'm just free-associating about the Hulk, but what if shooting him just makes him angry? 's third movie, being three times longer than the usual episodes. The administrator of this site (view-comic.com) cannot be held responsible for what its users post, or any other actions of its users. But, more importantly, the future is changed at the end of this book. Other adult Franklins get to destroy Celestials, or are immortals who will be there to accompany Galactus when this universe comes to an end, even younger Franklins can destroy Mephisto or create pocket universes... but this guy, nada. November 1, 2016 7:58 PM. Magneto's being developed as a solo villain and would overshadow Mystique, Mastermind was recently used in a very different capacity and is not only out of action but would also make Mystique redundant, the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and broadly reformed, and the Toad would make these guys look goofy. If i re-tag Rachel here someone is going to come along and demand that i tag the Guardians of the Galaxy in MTIO #4-5, etc.. In 2014, the comic book storyline was loosely adapted as a live-action film called X-Men: Days of Future Past. July 31, 2016 5:44 PM. James Mangold talks "The Wolverine!" Not only does this arc feature what is surely the most-easily-killed Wolverine you'll ever see (presumably if Claremont & Byrne had stayed just 2 or 3 panels longer in 2013, we'd have seen Wolverine now completely healed after being reduced to an adamantium skeleton, telling the readers it was just a flesh wound), but I think it's also the only version of adult Franklin who isn't so incredibly powerful that he could sort out this whole thing by himself. Because if she was 19, and this takes place 33 years in the future, then Franklin would be 37- Franklin's a real cradle robber! It's possible they were both members of the latest class of New Mutants while Sam, Dani and the others had graduated to the X-Men or otherwise gone on with their adult lives. Ok, Moses Magnum is a clear win. Posted by: Posted by: There is more of this in the comics … There's no way that wasn't a conscious parallel with Xavier on Byrne and Claremont's part. Realizing the inexperienced X-Man is in the room, the other X-Men break their concentration to save Kitty from harm before Nightcrawler can teleport to the emergency shut-off switch. Solid story by Chris Claremont and great art by John Byrne. I tracked an earlier mention in Uncanny X-Men #116. This two-issue story is the best. The new Brotherhood is pretty tough, but the X-Men's internal problems also contribute to the fight, especially the conflict between Wolverine and Storm over Wolverine's lethal methods. But there was something else almost equally important: I wanted the X-Men to have a clean win. So the fact that these issues have a scary future sequence and a cool fight with a new "supervillain" team are only part of the reason why these issues are great. Typical Claremont "no clear wins", I guess, that the precognitive seems to sometimes help cause the bad futures by her predictions. You can add characters like Spider-Woman and Titania, it builds to a climax as Galactus simply destroys the Sentinels who are interfering with his machine, then Doom beats Galactus, then the Beyonder... Posted by: July 31, 2016 8:57 PM. The reason I mention this is because it makes all the difference to the story and, for my money, removing the scene damages the overall tale. I think it makes both characters more interesting. July 31, 2016 2:22 PM. Maybe there was no Anderson in the MU. I always wondered that too. ChrisW | Obviously I love thinking and writing about this stuff. X-Men: The Last Stand 4. I don't have any issue with him turning at the last minute either, in individual circumstances like you suggest, might become a cop out if it was used too much in that manner. In his 1st appearance he takes on the team and Juggernaut, and in his 2nd appearance he takes on the whole team and the Hellfire Club. And Mojo would probably have de-aged Rachel and amplified her "assets" so she didn't look like a skinny concentration camp survivor. This arc, Days of Future Past, introduces the concept of a dystopian future awaiting mutants. X-Men 1.1. Browse the Marvel comic series Years of Future Past (2015). 's Season Five and the one hundred and twenty-second episode overall. She is rescued by Wolverine, who is now part of the Canadian resistance against the Sentinels. ChrisW | Defeating the Brood, that was definitely a clear win. 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To be fair, I don't like the Hulk when he's happy. She has gathered the mutants Destiny, Blob, Pyro and Avalanche into a new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants for the purpose of assassinating Senator Kelly. Kudos to Claremont for writing such ambiguous long-term stories and kudos to John Byrne for putting up with Claremont as long as he did. After that he gets melded with Master Mold and then goes through the Siege Perilous. "Days of Future Past" is a storyline in the Marvel Comics comic book The Uncanny X-Men issues #141–142, published in 1981. July 31, 2016 3:21 AM. Ya I'm willing to accept human vulnerabilities for both Thor and Hulk - though like son of Kevin says, I'd tend to believe some nasty vengeance from Odin was waiting for the sentinels in the case of Thor's demise, but he is frequently a complete jackass that is also true. February 22, 2015 12:11 AM. I know that Mastermind attacks Mystique during From The Ashes after he leaves the Club, but I don't think it's ever been explained why. When Nightcrawler tries to lighten the mood, Kitty instinctively flinches in fear. "Days of Future Past" is a 1981 X-Men storyline (published in Uncanny X-Men #141 and #142 note ), written after the successful The Dark Phoenix Saga by Chris Claremont and John Byrne.This time-travel story was the first main story featuring Kitty Pryde.. ChrisW | August 24, 2013 11:38 PM, "Mystique tells Nightcrawler to ask Margarli Szardos, his demon step-mother, about their relationship.)". (Too bad they couldn't have gotten the movie out a year earlier), Posted by: July 31, 2016 1:52 PM. Does it state anywhere how long the Sentinels reign is? The ending scene certainly portrays a threat, but it does not mean that dystopian future remains. Then I threw up in my mouth. 8 - Fnord, you should put in the panel of the X-Men's reactions to Kitty walking through - Wolverine's laughter is especially nice to see since it happens so rarely. July 31, 2016 6:39 AM. Posted by: John felt, I suppose, that that would not work, so he waited until they were two-thirds of the way through the fight on the Mall, and then had everything stop dead, and staged the confrontation between Storm and Wolverine, which a number of readers found to be very awkward. Angel (Warren Worthington III) 1.6. X2: X-Men United 3. Contents[show] Plot Wolverine woke up in 1997, laying in bed next to a sleeping woman, both of them naked. What are the arms being sold? That moment when you realize Rachel Summers was probably the first comic book character to be conceived on-panel, and then you think of the problems she's caused for her friend and family and timeline, and then you realize her brother is Nathan Christopher Charles Summers. Or Dr. Octopus. It's supposed to be Nikolievitch not Alexandreivich! I generally think Destiny’s predictions are the best explanation for the assassination attempt against Kelly, too, although on re-reading the issues I see she that’s never explicitly given as the reason for this mission (but Destiny does tell Kelly at one point he’s a greater threat alive). Of course it was just Wolverine and Storm and wasn't a full team battle, but they were almost half the team at the time. The depiction of the president at the end of 142 is unusually coy. It's interesting to look at how Byrne drew Lois here, as opposed to in 1986 when he took on Superman. July 15, 2018 3:09 AM. I'm not sure there's any "good" placing for the discussion after the battle has already started, it probably needed to happen on the way before they got there, it's not as if Storm couldn't have guessed there would be cameras. Posted by: in UXM #202, Beyonder has the team fight a group of Omega Sentinels from Rachel's timeline, and they bust up the Sentinels fairly easily, without anyone managing to get disintegrated by a single Sentinel blast. ["It was a spring morning and I was on my way to Professor Ramsey's class. Michael | He was a nice guy, but distracted by trying to arrange the upcoming baseball game against the Massachusetts Academy and his wife Rhane suddenly dressing like a punk rocker. Anyway, the Rachel Summers who landed on 616 isn't the one we see here, who probably is at least pushing 30. Sprite (Kitty Pryde) 1.7. Nathan Adler | Posted by: Dr. November 3, 2016 7:49 PM. Mastermind in #175, I'll give you that. Suspension of disbelief is of course a key skill for any prospective comic book reader though. Posted by: Chris Claremont is best known for his work on Marvel Comics' The Uncanny X-Men, during which time it was the bestselling comic in the Western Hemisphere; he has sold more than 100 million comic books to date. She meets up with her husband Colossus and the last surviving members of the X-Men: Storm, Rachel Summers, Franklin Richards, and Magneto, who is now crippled and relies on a wheelchair to get around. It's that the team should have no reason to whine and complain after winning. Animated series, movies, comics, and everything in between. And that was from the Lee & Kirby days. One could argue it was a sign of Wolverine maturing, but I always took it that Wolverine simply personally disliked Cyclops for whatever reason (perhaps because Scott had the girl Logan had a crush on). Posted by: All that happened is Kate made things better for an alternate universe, but she would have returned to a world with even more dead friends, at which point I think she quickly shouts the "Dark Phoenix" phrase that sends Rachel (+ followed by Nimrod) back to the past, even if they don't show up till 40 issues later. One thing that matches is that the movie and these Sentinels are quite brutal. The new team beating the Juggernaut, yes, other than standard Marvel whining. Days of Future Past Concept » Days of Future Past appears in 56 issues . No! Not even Nightcrawler or someone. A late '90s X-Men mini that didn't work? Omar Karindu | Handwaving the reason for that is a hard slog. In any case he had his miniseries after that, and I recall he became more pleasant and a team-player. If you really want to think about it, simply working up the guts to pull the trigger is what caused him to change in time to stop the bullet. 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